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Youtube tightens the reins on trolls.

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You all know my opinion on it. (CLAPS LOUDLY) but what do YOU all think?

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YouTube comment sections are, without exception, completely awful. It doesn’t matter what you’re watching — scroll down from your video of a baby orangutan cradling a basket of kittens in it’s arms and you’ll find 90% of the comments are horrifically racist and/or homophobic, arguing about something completely unrelated to the video or spam.
Well, it looks like YouTube has, at long last, decided to do something about their comment sections being the absolute butthole of the Internet. There’s some changes coming to YouTube-ville, such as…

Filters
Believe it or not, until now this didn’t exist. Now the poster of a video can set certain words to be filtered and any comments with those words will be flagged and need approval to go up. The filter will also catch intentionally misspelled naughty words. You can also ban certain users from commenting on your videos altogether.

Threaded Conversations

Yes, believe it or not, YouTube didn’t have this either. Now people can actually have conversations instead of just responded to whatever gibberish happens to be on the first couple pages of comments.

Good Comment Promoting Algorithms

Up until now, the first comments you see when you scroll down are whatever nonsense is the most recent, or whatever the assholes commenting on the video upvoted the most. Not a great system. Now YouTube is promising magical algorithms that will find good, constructive comments from people you like and promote them to the first page. Seems like something that shouldn’t actually work, but hey, YouTube is owned by Google, and Google can do anything.
So yeah, will this fix YouTube comments overnight? Of course not, but hey, it’s not like things can get much worse. What do you, the most excellent Uproxx commentariat, think of these changes?
via Gizmodo


Read more: http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/20...set-become-somewhat-less-awful/#ixzz2gC2agIAZ

Steven Colbert also put his take on it:


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Stephen Colbert attacked YouTube for adding advanced comment moderation features on his show Wednesday night, calling it an “unprecedented attack on free speech” and asking his viewers to retaliate by adding a spammy comment to every YouTube video they come across.

Check out the entire segment here: http://www.colbertnation.com/the-co...ember-25-2013/censorship-for-youtube-comments

The folks at Google don’t seem to be too bothered about the spam attack. Chief Google+ Architect Yonatan Zunger posted a tounge-in-cheek reply to Colbert on Google+ Thursday morning, which read in part:
“I’m sorry, Mr. Colbert, but I can’t quite hear you over the sound of our spam filters.”
Zunger went on to say that filtering out comments from Colbert viewers wasn’t much of a challenge for his team:
“ This particular post was a large number of text-identical copies of a post with a link to an unsubtle spam site in it, so let’s just say that it was slightly less ambiguous than normal. :)
YouTube added additional ways to filter and moderate comments earlier this week, allowing video uploaders to filter certain words or ban individual viewers from commenting on their videos.


another blogger posted his thoughts:


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I am a big fan of YouTube. I particularly enjoy videos by iJustine and Chris Pirillo. While the videos are great, the comments usually aren't. Quite frankly, YouTube comments are often vulgar, racist and upsetting -- an overall blemish on humanity in my opinion.
Today, Google announces that "starting this week, you’ll see the new YouTube comments powered by Google+ on your channel discussion tab. This update will come to comments on all videos later this year, as we bring you more ways to connect with familiar faces on YouTube."
The company highlights the following changes:

  • Comments you care about move to the top: You’ll see posts at the top of the list from the video’s creator, popular personalities, engaged discussions about the video, and people in your Google+ Circles.
  • Join the conversation publicly or privately: You can choose to start a conversation so that it is seen by everyone on YouTube and Google+, only people in your Circles or just your bestie. Like Gmail, replies are threaded so you can easily follow conversations.
  • Better ways to moderate comments: You have new tools to review comments before they’re posted, block certain words or save time by auto-approving comments from certain fans. These can help you spend less time moderating, and more time sharing videos and connecting with your fans.
While I applaud YouTube for trying to improve and clean-up commenting, I am concerned about the changes to moderating. While giving the video owner the option to block words of their choosing sounds good in theory, it may be dangerous in practice.
For example, what if a political candidate posted a video but blocked their opponent's name from comments. Or, what if a recording artist blocks words that have a negative sentiment, to give the illusion of widespread praise. In both of these examples, free speech is curtailed to the video owner's benefit.
Google also mentions auto-approving comments by certain "fans". However, what if a video owner only approves fans that are of a certain race, religion or sexual orientation? YouTube could become a hot-spot for segregation.
Free speech is arguably not a legal issue here since YouTube is not a Government-owned site. However, Google should still be held accountable since it hosts political debates and is a large proponent of a free-internet.
Overall, the benefits simply do not outweigh the potential abuses. While cleaning-up YouTube comments is a much needed task, censorship is not the answer -- even in the hands of the users.
What do you think, is giving video owners the ability to block certain words of their choosing a good idea? Tell me in the comments.
 
The first thing I had to think about was this picture:
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Anyhow, sounds great. One thing that was not mentioned here is that they are going to remove Video answers. Not such a big deal, but for youtubers who want to engage with the community it´s not that easy (for example if you want to recreate a song, and say everybody who watches me, please record yourself while singing).
 
I've not seen it in action yet, but I can't say I'd be angry about all the "buttsekz ur mom atheism ur dumb" comments going away o_o...
 
I never read the comments, but then I don't create content. This sort of stuff probably bothers them the most.

or example, what if a political candidate posted a video but blocked their opponent's name from comments. Or, what if a recording artist blocks words that have a negative sentiment, to give the illusion of widespread praise. In both of these examples, free speech is curtailed to the video owner's benefit.
Google also mentions auto-approving comments by certain "fans". However, what if a video owner only approves fans that are of a certain race, religion or sexual orientation? YouTube could become a hot-spot for segregation.
Free speech is arguably not a legal issue here since YouTube is not a Government-owned site. However, Google should still be held accountable since it hosts political debates and is a large proponent of a free-internet.
Overall, the benefits simply do not outweigh the potential abuses. While cleaning-up YouTube comments is a much needed task, censorship is not the answer -- even in the hands of the users.
What do you think, is giving video owners the ability to block certain words of their choosing a good idea? Tell me in the comments.
I say, so what? It's a private site that anyone can post a video of almost anything on. Like wikipedia or any other user created content site, you take it with a grain of salt. If people choose to curate their channel by excluding people they think are homosexual or black, then let them. Don't subscribe to them and down vote them, or ignore them entirely. Or post your own vid ranting against them (which would probly have the opposite effect of giving them MORE hits, but I digress).

Free speech is a public right, not a private one. I can kick you out of my house for speaking nicely about Barack Obama, and there's nothing you could do about it, because it's not a public area. I consider YouTube channels to be privately held by the content creators and YouTube (aka Google), so they can set their rules however they like. If you don't like censorship, Euchale already posted earlier about a more liberal alternative.
 
I think this is a slippery slope...I mean sure blocking legit trolls is a great idea. However I am 100 % sure this new feature will be used not only to silence trolls but also to censor people because they have dissenting points of view or possibly hurt the OP's feelings (OH NO).

This is going to be CRAZY abused, to the point that posting comments on youtube will be almost pointless if you disagree with whatever the content may be.
 
I think this is a slippery slope...I mean sure blocking legit trolls is a great idea. However I am 100 % sure this new feature will be used not only to silence trolls but also to censor people because they have dissenting points of view or possibly hurt the OP's feelings (OH NO).

This is going to be CRAZY abused, to the point that posting comments on youtube will be almost pointless if you disagree with whatever the content may be.

It's a tough line to draw. Once we see how it actually works, it may be fine or they may need to iterate a bit. Hopefully a balance between allowing dissenting opinions and purging the idiots can be found.
 
something needs to be done. It's a cesspool in its current incarnation. I say implement something then tweak it.
 
I am all for it. It is already being abused as "free speech" so the abuse from some censoring tools will be just the same but less "ron Paul 2012"


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