New team chosen! Basically I sent out a PM to everyone asking about teams, altering the question a bit for each person. Here are the responses I got (my responses are in italics, everything else is the person whom with I was talking):
Bald (reached out to me first):
"Just a thought. Look at the last 2 missions and see who were on a team. 2 out of 4 are spys. We don't know who yet but we can't trust them with another mission just yet. New team is a wonderful idea. Just going right down the list i would suggest you, Kel, Gyoin and Theif for a mission. If the mission fails then we can deduce that the third or fourth spy is in this group. I have faith in you. VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!"
Dainjre:
As I thought, my mission failed. The results were much better than I hoped for, as it proved something that I had a theory on. Anyway! My suggestions are to take anyone not from my team. Obviously there were one one but two spies. I would promise you that I'm not one of them, but I'm sure you wouldn't believe me. Regardless of the fact, beware of Diremongoose, as he openly admitted to me that he was in fact a spy and that he would vote for failure in a private intel between the two of us.
Me: Two fail votes was interesting for sure. So who would be your 4 picks for this round?
Kelenyal, you, myself, onewhoruns, if I was the leader. I know that at least there would be two success votes and two of the three other people on my previous team are in fact spies, and for sure one of them in the original team, if not both besides me are spies. I know I am not one. The odds of missikn success of a team with that composition has a high success percentage
Gyoin:
As I said previously, it can be a blind pick of the final 6 that have not been on a mission. At the moment, your guess is as good as mine. As I outlaid in my previous response, the best scenario would be a 4-0 win for resistance, and I can only provide you with the one guaranteed success vote (as I am resistance). Beyond that, I will approve whatever you choose, as long as it does not include anyone from mission 2.
Me: If you were putting this one together who would you pick as your 4?
At this point, your guess is as good as mine.
If you leave out myself and yourself, there will be at least one spy (as I am resist and not sure about you). If the vote comes up to 3-1, I would have to speculate yourself as the spy. If the vote came up 2-2, that would clear our names. If the vote came up 4-0, the spies made a stupid move and if you were a spy and they kept the same team, resist would win in mission 4 with the same win.
You could argue me as a spy in the 3-1 scenario, and if you were a spy that would be your best scenario. But can you trust the fourth spy to vote for a failure?
You could also just vote in the same 4 people and look and see how many people vote to keep the team. That'd cause a real ruckus
The only scenario that I can see this not working is if you exclude us both, you are indeed resistance, and then one spy votes success.
But again, can you truly believe that will occur?
Me: Yeah, there are a lot of potential scenarios right now, thanks for the input!
End of the day, there are two options. Go for the win now and try to choose 4-0 which would have to include myself and leave out the last two spies, or identify the last two spies.
To do anything else than those two scenarios will only make you a saboteur.
One:
As stated in the thread, it should be 4 people that have not participated in any of the previous missions. From only the raw data that has been provided, and not any data that may have been collected based on conjecture from the forum posts; Any 4 random people will do. If you feel like using any type of conjecture from the forums, go right ahead. Ill keep to the raw data, while keeping the forum banter in the back of my mind.
Kel:
It's too early. We need to see how this one plays out first.
I've answered your question in thread. If you are Resistance, beware of anyone sharing secret information or attempting subterfuge of any kind. Only spies depend on PMs.
PF:
You want to see who I would vote for so you can try and figure out I am a spy? Good plan.
I would vote for yourself, since you know you're not a spy. I'd include myself in the team since I know I'm not a spy.
I'd include Kel since I'm pretty sure he's not a spy, and either Gyoin or Thief. I'm not sure about either of them, but I'd take a gamble rather than choose any of the other people I was on the last mission with.
Dire:
It's a question of trust. If you're sensible you'd have sent similar messages to multiple people. It's not to late to do that.
My original plan was, upon failure of the mission, to have a completely different team of 4 for the next one. This strategy seems no less valid, and I will post it in the main thread.
After all, the odds are now a maximum of 2 spies in 6 people, rather than the last group: 2 spies in 4 people.
Otake:
I was about to send thoughts to you. Now I will be blunt, Your lack of posts and messages between us means I have no clues where you lie, so I can not send information. But my thoughts is a brand new team including you, Gyion, OneWhoRuns ( but wait to see why he said no to last team) and Theif.
Me: Yeah, I understand that. You're kinda in the same boat w/me, which is why I reached out.
ok please hold off on posting your next team. I would like to talk to you in more detail first but i am atvwork at the moment. I shall speak to you later.
Me: I won't be making any decisions until later tonight at the earliest.
Ok, I am going show all my information in the thread. Read all I have to say.
Me: Will do.
It may take a while. Its gonna be big xD
Ok its all up.
Well the third Spy I am thinking is Kel but I have no good info on that yet.
Me: Awesome, I'll check it out tomorrow. Just ran outta time this evening.
Thief (who reached out to me first):
Before picking your next team I wanted to give you the first amount of information that I have gathered before sending it publicly or to another else. When I asked spies to message me, many people did. The purpose of this was to find as many spies as possible. I had 5 people message me, 4 of them seemed to try to be buddy/buddy with me and the other appeared to just be trying to figure out the spies himself. My current suspected spies are dainjre, otakebi, baldoraxx, and onewhoruns. I'm currently getting information from all four as they all have trusted me to also be a spy.
Me: Thanks for the info, I was waiting to see how the votes went before I went back and looked at posts. Wasn't expecting 2 no's so that's very interesting. What were the messages you got from everyone?
Dain and bald came to me right away, they played around a little bit now I'm sure they're spies. Onewhoruns contacted me not long after and seemed pretty straight forward. Otakebi just recently came to me after dire's accusation of me being 95% spy. I was hesitant at first about him but with the two votes to fail in the last mission I'm certain that he's the 4th spy.
Oh, also had another idea. This is my first time playing this game so I dunno if it will work. If you decide to put me on your team, what if I public announce "I am a spy and I will fail vote this mission, all other spies don't fail it to keep you secrecy." Sounds dumb right? But if it stops them from downvoting it and they trust me, then the mission passes and we pull a fast one on them. Out of my four I'm least certain about onewhoruns, I don't know if you've had any contact with him yet or not.
Me: I think that's a little obvious TBH.
Normally it would be, but dire has been very vocal about me being a spy. I really feel like all the spies would trust it. I also feel like it couldn't hurt to try. Your call though since you're leader.
Me: I don't want to rule it out trickery, but I'm pretty sure this one will be outed right off the bat.
Like I said, I'm new to this. Just seemed like a cool idea and a for-sure win if it worked.
I'm out on my phone and won't be home till late but I wanted to contact you, what otakebi gave seems rather legit. Which greatly tosses off my thoughts. Like I said there were 5 people that messaged me. Four that seemed buddy buddy and another that seemed like they were looking for other spies. That 5th person was dire and he's looking pretty suspicious now. What do you think?
Me: I'll have to check it all out tomorrow. Life happened and sucked all my time away this evening.
I'm going to try to post the message dire sent me, I can just send it to you or I can make it public, but it matches what others have been saying now. Still on my phone for the night and I work tomorrow but I can still definitely copy paste some stuff.
Me: Might as well just make it public at this point. I ran out of time this evening to really get into this so I'll have to play catch-up tomorrow.
Hmm but I'm still in contact with others, I feel that posting info publicly will lose my trust with those people I stated earlier since they see me as another spy. I'll give you the info and you can use it as you are fit, but I'd suggest not saying its from me. You're the leader though and I trust you the most in this game so it's your call.
"You actions define you as a spy. Admit it and we can work something out, otherwise I will crush you, and neither of us want that." - Dire.
This is nearly exactly what he said to the others yet he trusted them to be spies and that's why he went further and asked them to not fail vote. I don't think he believed that I was another spy and that's why he's been tossing me under the bus 100% since the first mission. I definitely no longer trust dire anymore.
